tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post113699620517368718..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: On The Divisibility of God's MercyBrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1138338873806951392006-01-27T00:14:00.000-05:002006-01-27T00:14:00.000-05:00I feel as if the request is to prevent people from...I feel as if the request is to prevent people from "killing two birds with one stone"- that is, accepting tehillim for a whole lot of different people and then just saying the same chapters for all of them at once, the general idea being that they want you to be doing something extra specifically because of their child. This goes according to the logic that prayer is for merit, and if they cause you to do an extra good deed, all the merit goes straight to their child only. While I don't fully agree with this logic, I do understand it. It's not a question of mercy to go around, it's a question of merit, or rather causationTobiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14930468887760990485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1137936160459657362006-01-22T08:22:00.000-05:002006-01-22T08:22:00.000-05:00I agree that it doesn't make complete sense becaus...I agree that it doesn't make complete sense because there have been times when prayers "weren't answered". It was the same type of people who say that we should not divide prayers between different people who were probably the ones who said - "G-d said no, but all of the prayers went to help so-and-so other situation that needed praying for..." Nachshon Waxman is an example that comes to mind.SShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14757423096055614154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1137301994289443242006-01-15T00:13:00.000-05:002006-01-15T00:13:00.000-05:00Is it harder to believe that G-d has only so much ...Is it harder to believe that G-d has only so much mercy to go around, or that G-d is less likely to care about a particular person unless other people pray for his recovery? If it is for our own benefit, then why dictate a nusach or even that it be "Tehilim"? Let it be as Moshe did "Kel na refa no la", and finished.Rebeljewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12134454584925044808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1137021109914266652006-01-11T18:11:00.000-05:002006-01-11T18:11:00.000-05:00I believe there is a concept that mishaberachs on ...I believe there is a concept that mishaberachs on Shabbat should only be said for those who are seriously ill. The Rav at our local YI shul is apparantely very strict about admitting names onto the mishaberach list for Shabbat.<BR/><BR/>But, since the tehillim is said on all days, not just Shabbat, I'm wondering if the same concept applies. It would be interesting to know the basis for their request.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1137020828071396592006-01-11T18:07:00.000-05:002006-01-11T18:07:00.000-05:00That's an interesting way to look at it Olah.Of co...That's an interesting way to look at it <B>Olah</B>.<BR/><BR/>Of course you are correct that God doesn't "need" our prayers and that it is for my benefit.<BR/><BR/>But then again, nonetheless, the end result is that you want God to heal the person for whom you are praying. If I personally don't know the kid (which I don't) then on what am I concentrating? A name? Well, I think it's just as easy to concentrate on two names as it is on one.<BR/><BR/>I didn't think the request was outlandish, but I didn't think it was entirely proper.<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1137020484488428262006-01-11T18:01:00.000-05:002006-01-11T18:01:00.000-05:00I've always learned that Tefillah isn't for G-d's ...I've always learned that Tefillah isn't for G-d's benefit, it's for ours. G-d doesn't need our Teffilot, we do. Therefore, when you daven, you're supposed to concentrate on what you're doing to reinforce what the meaning is for you. Because of that, I don't neccessarily disagree with the request. I don't believe it has anything with trying to grasp G-d's undivided attention. I think it's to grasp yours. If you're dividing your attention to many different people, you're not concentrating on the person you agreed to pray for. While I don't agree with it whole-heartedly, I don't think it's a completely outlandish request.<BR/>-OCOlah Chadashahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04944285441651551482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1136999703188895202006-01-11T12:15:00.000-05:002006-01-11T12:15:00.000-05:00I agree that the theology behind such a request is...I agree that the theology behind such a request is iffy, but as you said, in such a situation rahmanut for the boy and his family's situation is the only thing called for and that means complying with the family's request.Mississippi Fred MacDowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734864605700159687noreply@blogger.com