tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post3536027025954041961..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: Rav Reich and Lakewood Yid on the power of the Gra z"lBrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-48560541815028043192006-09-06T06:37:00.000-04:002006-09-06T06:37:00.000-04:00bw
a little late, but my two cents.
i believe it w...bw<br />a little late, but my two cents.<br />i believe it was me who asked if ly really believes the goan could do it.<br /><br />in my opinion ly doensnt actually believe what he writes.<br />he simply takes a maximalist position and sticks with it until he cant any longer. he then takes the next maximalist position.<br /><br />he stated goal is to defend charedi ideology. that ideology is to not give an inch unless confronted with overwhelming evidence and a godol says its ok to give that inch.<br />charedi gedolim are in no mood to give any inches, so they are creating a society of taliban driven loonies.topshadchanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07153946018043229765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-22394478432065870812006-08-24T13:36:00.000-04:002006-08-24T13:36:00.000-04:00Fair enough. Point taken.
The WolfFair enough. Point taken.<br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-7767551169260098272006-08-24T13:10:00.000-04:002006-08-24T13:10:00.000-04:00"However, if you'd care to tell me exactly what pa...<i>"However, if you'd care to tell me exactly what part of my post was idiotic or childish, I'll be glad to address it."</i><br /><br />The part where you take Lakewood Yid seriously and present a rational response to his psychophantic drivel.and so it shall be...https://www.blogger.com/profile/14938399154970068213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-62662167280636367002006-08-23T22:53:00.000-04:002006-08-23T22:53:00.000-04:00Chaim,
Thank you for your comment. However, if y...<b>Chaim</b>,<br /><br />Thank you for your comment. However, if you'd care to tell me exactly what part of my post was idiotic or childish, I'll be glad to address it.<br /><br />Personally, I don't think taking LY to task for his comments is idiotic or childish. Nor, for that matter, do I think someone taking me to task for my comments childish or idiotic either. I simply ask that you elaborate further on why you believe so.<br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-29559640612645670722006-08-23T21:28:00.000-04:002006-08-23T21:28:00.000-04:00this is the most idiotic and childish arguments h ...this is the most idiotic and childish arguments h i have ever encountered ,its really an embarrasment please cut it outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-73635177053048397552006-08-23T13:00:00.000-04:002006-08-23T13:00:00.000-04:00The way I understood LY was that he was saying tha...The way I understood LY was that he was saying that *assuming the quote to be accurate* (and he did leave room that it might not be), that the Gra could do whatever he wanted, in effect, making him omnipotent.<br /><br />My point was that, assuming the above is true, then if the Gra was omnipotent, then certainly the other figures I mentioned should be as well - but yet we see that they weren't.<br /><br />I'll allow for the fact that I'm misinterpreting what LY said. If he chooses to explain it in a way that shows that my interpretation was wrong, I will be more than happy to apologize.<br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-19130820533327278212006-08-23T12:14:00.000-04:002006-08-23T12:14:00.000-04:00What Lakewood Yid said was that 'if the Gra said h...What Lakewood Yid said was that 'if the Gra said he could do such and such, then he could'. The veracity of the quote from the Gra was questionable. If in fact the Gra could not put the whole universe on the table before Aristotle, then LY would say that the Gra would never say such a thing.<br /><br />I don't read what you've quoted LY as saying is that the Gra is omnipotent. I hear LY saying the Gra is absolutely truthful. The same could easily apply to Yirmiahu - the reason that he never said he could prevent the destruction of the Beit Hamikdash is that he couldn't.Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-35912879658345135762006-08-23T10:02:00.000-04:002006-08-23T10:02:00.000-04:00The logic simply lies in the fact that even LY wou...The logic simply lies in the fact that even LY would agree that the people I quoted were greater than the Gra. As such, if the Gra were so powerful that he could do "anything" (R'tzon Yire'uv Ya'aseh), then surely these greater people could have done something about the calamities that befell them in their time.BrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-87394962029966426782006-08-23T09:50:00.000-04:002006-08-23T09:50:00.000-04:00None of the authorities you cite ever claimed they...None of the authorities you cite ever claimed they could do any of the things you say they desired. So I don't see how they are counters to LY's comment that if the Gra said he could do something he could do it.<br /><br />Not that I find his claim believable, but the logic of your counterexample simply doesn't follow.Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.com