tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post679592193863923770..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: Weddings, Shuls, Eichah and Fire LieutenantsBrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-74482571142342422022008-09-02T03:34:00.000-04:002008-09-02T03:34:00.000-04:00With construction costs being what they are, I dou...With construction costs being what they are, I doubt if we will be building grand edifices like the Eldridge Street Synagogue any time soon. I'd make small donations to the reconstruction effort; I doubt if communal funds, as opposed to voluntary contributions and gov't grants (the bldg is a historic site), were used. A large shul that is abandoned and becomes the neighborhood eyesore or worse is a <I>hillul Hashem</I> which ought to be corrected, and a society that does not honor its past has little hope for its future. It would be like letting the historic Dutch farmhouse a block from my house go to ruin or be torn down.<BR/> And stop to think of what that shul and similar ones represented. Their worshipers came here from the hellholes of Europe poor as (pardon me) churchmice, seeking opportunity - and security - that they couldn't even dream of where they came from. They managed to put a few dollars together and built a shul, a magnificent piece of architecture in the style of other houses of worship built by other immigrants before them (e.g. St. Patrick's Cathedral by the Irish, who also came here dirt poor). The style of worship also imitated the neighbors, in a positive sense. There was a decorum there that you don't find in an Orthodox shul today, only in Conservative synagogues and Reform temples. You could hear a pin drop when the Torah was being read. And the investment of resources was a measure of the security we felt. No more Inquisitions, no more pogroms, no more expulsions. We'd be staying until Mashiach comes. Then - we left, and abandoned the institutions that we poured our sweat into. Sure, it was voluntary, and no one can force people to stay in a neighborhood if they don't want to. But the people who replaced us know exactly why we left. F-E-A-R. Jews are weak, Jews are cowards, all the tired old canards ad infinitum ad nauseam. <I>Eikhah yashvah badad. . .</I>.Zev Sternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11424730129824148277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-80709878326945472862008-08-12T01:12:00.000-04:002008-08-12T01:12:00.000-04:00CHAIM:"depends entirely on the trup"it also depend...CHAIM:<BR/><BR/>"depends entirely on the trup"<BR/><BR/>it also depends on the nikkud (see previous comment)<BR/><BR/>"the trup will always function to clarify the meaning of the pasuk"<BR/><BR/>depends on the parshan. for example: <A HREF="http://agmk.blogspot.com/2008/07/did-ibn-ezra-follow-trop_30.html" REL="nofollow"><BR/>Did Ibn Ezra Follow Trop?</A>Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-89614822046300599782008-08-12T01:02:00.000-04:002008-08-12T01:02:00.000-04:00two quick notes on the trop issue:אדני is not an a...two quick notes on the trop issue:<BR/><BR/>אדני is not an adjective but rather a noun (equivalent to genitive) that serves as the nomen rectum in the construct phonetic unit.<BR/><BR/>also, there is a second way that we know מקדש אדני should be read as one one unit: because the פתח under the ק marks מקדש as being in the construct state (נסמך). compare with chaim's example, the ק has a קמץ because it is is in the absolute state (נפרד) and is not connected to the next word. this is relevant for בעלי קריאה who distinguish between קמץ גדול and פתח and it is important for them to be aware of this.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-38771885948401099422008-08-12T00:31:00.000-04:002008-08-12T00:31:00.000-04:00regarding eicha:nice catch. i mention disjunctive ...regarding eicha:<BR/><BR/>nice catch. i mention disjunctive and conjunctive trop on and off on my blog. i've been meaning to give a concrete example of how it changes the meaning using the numbers example. i will keep your example in mind<BR/><BR/>re. fire lieu.:<BR/><BR/>she's works as an emt, not a firefighter<BR/><BR/>regarding mazel tov:<BR/><BR/>mazael tov<BR/><BR/>re. lost shuls:<BR/><BR/>neandershot is a bit dramatic in this instance and it's not called for. as a commentor noted, no churban here. the jewish community moved--willingly is the key here--and sold their buildings. what's the big deal.<BR/><BR/>personally, i think this is reason that we shouldn't waste communal resources in building such grand edifices. in a wasted investment.<BR/><BR/>moreover, i am opposed to spending communal funds on renovating those historic shul on the lower east side. it pains me to say this, as my field is american jewish history, but there are more important things to be spending our money on. (re. your shul that was a church, most synagogue buldings in the 19th c. were former churches)Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-49062494108013861492008-08-11T22:14:00.000-04:002008-08-11T22:14:00.000-04:00Your note on the trup brings to mind the pasuk in ...Your note on the trup brings to mind the pasuk in shiras hayam "mikdash, Hashem ko'ninu yadecha", where Rashi notes that the trup on the word "mikdash" is a zakeif-gadol to force a pause to seperate it from Hashem's name (i.e. insert a comma pause, like I wrote it above). Whether it is read "mikdash, Hashem...." or "mikdash Hashem," (like your example) depends entirely on the trup. <BR/>On 9 Av I started Iyov and noticed an interesting comment by Amos Chacham in the Da'at Mikra at the end of ch. 1. He writes a "klal gadol" in trup - where the trup can either preserve poetic meter at the expense of clarity or help clarify meaning at the expense of meter, the trup will always function to clarify the meaning of the pasuk even if it means sacrificing poetic meter. Tisha b'Av is not the best time to try to think of examples to test his rule by (my brain works better on a full stomach), but it would be interesting to find other cases that prove the rule.Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-18162130811803783942008-08-11T17:01:00.000-04:002008-08-11T17:01:00.000-04:00Negiya!!! leave me here to die.Negiya!!!!!Negiya!!! <BR/>leave me here to die.<BR/>Negiya!!!!!Leah Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546935038863589318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-91045583020453453842008-08-11T16:44:00.000-04:002008-08-11T16:44:00.000-04:00Mazal Tov to your friend on her marriage. I know q...Mazal Tov to your friend on her marriage. I know quite a few women in their 30s and 40s who have not yet gotten married, and they too are wonderful, smart, attractive people. It gets so much harder as you get older.<BR/>Hope you enjoy the wedding.SuperRaizyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06742653185025562286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-8090650396499271972008-08-11T15:17:00.000-04:002008-08-11T15:17:00.000-04:00Bravo! both to that valiant woman and to your rig...Bravo! both to that valiant woman and to your right-on-the-money reaction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-88880750930654823012008-08-11T14:17:00.000-04:002008-08-11T14:17:00.000-04:00I get the impression from the award that she won t...I get the impression from the award that she won that she may not be a straight fire fighter, as the award was for EMS of the year. Of course that wouldn't get her any blessings with lots of people either. Re the screaming "busha," why do you think that with only two exceptions the units of Hatzoloh have no volunteer women?ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.com