tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post828268010255790633..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: The Importance of a Good EducationBrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-14955833147230970102008-12-24T09:35:00.000-05:002008-12-24T09:35:00.000-05:00Unfortunately Wolf, those chareidim who want to go...Unfortunately Wolf, those chareidim who want to go to college but can't will probably be much more likely to see their kids:<BR/>1) brainwashed back to chareidism<BR/>2) off the derech (partly due to their parents' angst)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-34059026313415550932008-12-24T09:32:00.000-05:002008-12-24T09:32:00.000-05:00Statistics do not affect yidden or anyone else, st...Statistics do not affect yidden or anyone else, statistics reflect life.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I'm sick and tired of people siting college ed as an answer to everything. College is just a stepping stone. The real answer to getting there is hard work, educating yourself about your field or expertise, staying focused and be organized. One can educate himself without stepping into the college or high school. And one could have that BA/BS diploma and it would be totally worthless, because that one didn't learn anything attaining it.mlevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831542484906424230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-30774400360144487422008-12-24T00:02:00.000-05:002008-12-24T00:02:00.000-05:00And yet, you seem to continue engaging these peopl...<I>And yet, you seem to continue engaging these people in debate, expecting rational responses. It doesn't seem the brightest thing either.</I><BR/><BR/>Everyone needs a hobby for entertainment purposes.<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-71449715847320370462008-12-23T23:27:00.000-05:002008-12-23T23:27:00.000-05:00> The person who posted the original comment ca...<I>> The person who posted the original comment came back with this response, which I hereby dub "the stupidest quote of the day...</I><BR/><BR/>And yet, you seem to continue engaging these people in debate, expecting rational responses. It doesn't seem the brightest thing either.The Hedyothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15193083251783618457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-4001101682160985402008-12-23T20:17:00.000-05:002008-12-23T20:17:00.000-05:00"i hold that statistics dont affect us yidden. "I ..."i hold that statistics dont affect us yidden. "<BR/><BR/>I have never laughed so hard at a comment in my life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-72396614337957361972008-12-23T17:40:00.000-05:002008-12-23T17:40:00.000-05:00Hmmm, including the statistic that "75% of all sta...Hmmm, including the statistic that "75% of all statistics are made up"?ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-29667356584272927692008-12-23T17:09:00.000-05:002008-12-23T17:09:00.000-05:0075% of all statistics are made up.75% of all statistics are made up.Gil Studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12776831546758682126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-47925413599566887022008-12-23T16:55:00.000-05:002008-12-23T16:55:00.000-05:00Wolf, I must be channeling your thoughts somehow; ...Wolf, I must be channeling your thoughts somehow; I have two postings scheduled for next Monday and Wednesday on what a college education is worth, and the breakdown is given for various age cohorts and for the various types of degrees that can be earned, undergrad and graduate. There is also a posting upcoming on the various diploma mills that cater to the frum community.<BR/><BR/>As to the comment on statistics and yidden, much as we'd like to deny the fact, we have always had the intellectually deficient as members of Klal.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-86345182576082987402008-12-23T15:58:00.000-05:002008-12-23T15:58:00.000-05:00What the poster probably meant was: "I hold that (...What the poster probably meant was: "I hold that (income) statistics don't affect us yiddin (who don't report our true income)."Logo Yidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499119774786702626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-41734677308713347252008-12-23T14:21:00.000-05:002008-12-23T14:21:00.000-05:00He doesn't believe in science or statistics. Or ma...He doesn't believe in science or statistics. Or math, for that matter. How can you expect a rational person to believe in an irrational number? Goyisher kop.Baal Devarimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06490450025721108241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-60348901306144369752008-12-23T14:07:00.000-05:002008-12-23T14:07:00.000-05:00Wolf, push him. Why doesn't he think that stats "...Wolf, push him. Why doesn't he think that stats "affect" Yidden?DAGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09475799835170867139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-71329097456685953362008-12-23T14:05:00.000-05:002008-12-23T14:05:00.000-05:00i hold that statistics dont affect us yidden.I hol...<I>i hold that statistics dont affect us yidden.</I><BR/><BR/>I hold that people who think statistics don't affect yiddin are freaking morons.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-36110546145381485362008-12-23T13:43:00.000-05:002008-12-23T13:43:00.000-05:00How he would explain results to date would be inte...<I>How he would explain results to date would be interesting, but certainly doable</I><BR/><BR/>God helps those who help themselves?<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-61805301003207467062008-12-23T13:40:00.000-05:002008-12-23T13:40:00.000-05:00Funny, in some pre-shiur discussion this AM I comm...Funny, in some pre-shiur discussion this AM I commented to my rebbi that I wish I could get people to stop assuming that their own anecdotal experience was representative of the state of the universe. His response was what I would characterize as a guffaw.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, your respondent does have a point, a true maamin (in R' Dessler's terms)can claim that the hashgacha pratit for him will outweigh anything else and that the fallacy of composition does not hold for the community of true maaminim. How he would explain results to date would be interesting, but certainly doable<BR/>KT<BR/>Joel RichAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-2187616427778242132008-12-23T13:31:00.000-05:002008-12-23T13:31:00.000-05:00Wolf, don't worry about this BLAHBLAH commenter, h...Wolf, don't worry about this BLAHBLAH commenter, he/she is just bored and looking to get a rise out of someone (e.g. you). There are other commenters who believe what they say, but not BLAHBLAH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-55745620091495077642008-12-23T12:12:00.000-05:002008-12-23T12:12:00.000-05:00Poeple always note the exceptions, but that's prec...Poeple always note the exceptions, but that's precisely because they're exceptions.<BR/><BR/>Everyone knows or has heard of "someone" who was injured in a car accident because they were wearing a seatbelt. So are seatbelts unsafe? Of course not, there's no disputing their utility. Which is why when someone is injured because of a seatbelt (as opposed to going flying 50' through the windshield) everyone hears about it.<BR/><BR/>It's the same with education. Yes, there are self-made millionaires out there. There are even people learning at a high level who never went to yeshivah. They're the exceptions, not the rule. Not the way to plan one's life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-23864229565181420222008-12-23T11:59:00.000-05:002008-12-23T11:59:00.000-05:00Michael,Good questions. I'm not sure about the fi...Michael,<BR/><BR/>Good questions. I'm not sure about the first... that's the wording that they used on the BLS site.<BR/><BR/>I would assume "Bachelor's Degree or more" means one who has started grad school or taken continuing education beyond undergrad but not attatined an advanced degree. <BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-50099523631007292942008-12-23T11:56:00.000-05:002008-12-23T11:56:00.000-05:00Very interesting. Two trivial questions. First, wh...Very interesting. Two trivial questions. First, what does "usual median" mean, given that you're talking about a specific quarter? Does it mean something other than "median"? Second, could you please clarify the categories? "Bachelor's Degree" is a category, and so is "Bachelor's Degree or more", but the first one seems to be a subset of the second one.Michael Koplowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07334251239196640565noreply@blogger.com