tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post111981884844567122..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: On RememmmmmmmmberingBrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1120574002794008662005-07-05T10:33:00.000-04:002005-07-05T10:33:00.000-04:00Anyone else notice that?No, I'm too busy saying Sh...<I>Anyone else notice that?</I><BR/><BR/>No, I'm too busy saying Shema. ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1120079449522137502005-06-29T17:10:00.000-04:002005-06-29T17:10:00.000-04:00I suppose it depends, PT.I've had days where I fel...I suppose it depends, <B>PT</B>.<BR/><BR/>I've had days where I felt more "devout" than others and took longer to daven Shmoneh Esrei. But usually no longer than it takes the Shliach Tzibur to get to Kedushah.<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1120078437773949812005-06-29T16:53:00.000-04:002005-06-29T16:53:00.000-04:00I had a similar problem with the "frummer than tho...I had a similar problem with the "frummer than thous" who try to stretch out the silent shmoneh esrei to <A HREF="http://psychotoddler.blogspot.com/2004/11/ten-minute-shmoneh-esrei.html" REL="nofollow">ten minutes</A>. I can't get anywhere near that. The Shatz takes half as long to say the same thing out loud. I wonder "what is going on in there"? How can it take that long to say those words? Is it all for show? It seems people are trying to see who will finish last.PsychoToddlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00874353280798371891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1120061328019948182005-06-29T12:08:00.000-04:002005-06-29T12:08:00.000-04:00Chana,It sounds as though your former school has p...Chana,<BR/><BR/>It sounds as though your former school has problems. But I have to say, as a public school teacher, I would LOVE to not let some of my students back in the fall because they lack kavvanah. Wow. What an idea!BBJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09939946821381798057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1120009008011272732005-06-28T21:36:00.000-04:002005-06-28T21:36:00.000-04:00Thank you for the kind words Ayelet.I certainly un...Thank you for the kind words <B>Ayelet</B>.<BR/><BR/>I certainly understand that it's hard to whisper the /z/ sound. That's why one must be careful. I don't mind if someone emphasizes it a bit, if that's what's necessary for them. But I hear people that sound like flocks of bees. *That's* the crux of my complaint.<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1120006602167795912005-06-28T20:56:00.000-04:002005-06-28T20:56:00.000-04:00Wolf, about the words being said louder, the peopl...Wolf, about the words being said louder, the people who are <I>not</I> hyper might do that because it is impossible to whisper the /z/ sound. It is a voiced sound and, if produced in a whisper, necessarily becomes its voiceless twin, /s/. Btw-nice to meet you. Enjoyed your blog for the first time today!Ayelethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02452707874685237517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119897922523442902005-06-27T14:45:00.000-04:002005-06-27T14:45:00.000-04:00Hi anonymous,Yeah, now that you mention it, I was ...Hi anonymous,<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yeah, now that you mention it, I was beginning to think it was some type of predominantly Jewish genetic defect, like a Tay-Sachs of the soft palate or something.<BR/><BR/>But It appears you are right, it is just religiosity gone amuck.<BR/><BR/>The next time I make it to Shul in time to daven more than adon olam, I am going to lock eyes with the rabbi and out “zzzz” him in every respect. No matter how hard he zzzzs I will zzzz back twice as hard. <BR/><BR/>Drawing from reserves of strength I never knew I had, I will fight till my throat is raw and my lips bitter and chapped. Like a nerve wracking game of chicken, neither of us will be willing to swerve first. Blue in the face and starving for air we will zzzz with all our conviction and might, staring at each other icily over shtender and chair, eyes daring the other to quit. <BR/><BR/>It will be winner take all and to the lesser man the shame of defeat.<BR/><BR/>I will best him in this contest due to my emunah peshutah, and a gapping whole in between my front teeth through which I can spit as well as zzzz.<BR/><BR/>And then, and only then, treasuring my pious victory, will I go to the back of the shul and talk real estate.Ben Avuyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08814145983874592449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119890688841628042005-06-27T12:44:00.000-04:002005-06-27T12:44:00.000-04:00It used to be just tizkiru, but now people feel th...It used to be just tizkiru, but now people feel the need to outdo each other more, so they will over emphasize all the zayins, including uzchartem and zonim. Anyone else notice that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119875238796866812005-06-27T08:27:00.000-04:002005-06-27T08:27:00.000-04:00daat y,god comes off better to you when he threate...daat y,<BR/><BR/>god comes off better to you when he threatens entire populations with stravation, rather than just individuals ?<BR/><BR/>This puts your mind at ease ?<BR/><BR/>A penny for your thoughts....Ben Avuyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08814145983874592449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119841100417938562005-06-26T22:58:00.000-04:002005-06-26T22:58:00.000-04:00Wolf,Shachris,maariv,and keriyas shema al hamita. ...Wolf,<BR/>Shachris,maariv,and keriyas shema al hamita. After all that yeshiva don’t say it isn’t so.<BR/><BR/>Secondly there is a difference between a law and a threat. And even if American law had the punishment for, “following your eyes and heart” to be lack of water, crops and starvation I would certainly cite it as cruel and unusual, wouldn’t you ?Ben Avuyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08814145983874592449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119837926883967942005-06-26T22:05:00.000-04:002005-06-26T22:05:00.000-04:00I agree with you. Here's another question- how can...I agree with you. Here's another question- how can one person every properly assess another person's kavanah?<BR/><BR/>That's allegedly the reason people were not allowed into my former school this year- they "lacked" kavanah.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm.<BR/><BR/>Rachak- why sick? That's an odd comment to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119836146733566922005-06-26T21:35:00.000-04:002005-06-26T21:35:00.000-04:00Rachack,The story of someone hitting 112 years is ...<B>Rachack</B>,<BR/><BR/>The story of someone hitting 112 years is certainly encouraging, but what does it have to do with the topic at hand?<BR/><BR/><B>DBH</B>,<BR/><BR/>I intend to be at one of his lectures.<BR/><BR/><B>Ben Avuyah</B>,<BR/><BR/>Firstly, Sh'ma is recited only twice per day, not thrice.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that there are consequences for actions. Would you avoid reading a law because it says "someone who murders may be charged with murder and subject to life in prison or death...?"<BR/><BR/>And thank you, <B>daat</B>, for the kind comments.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and <B>Rachack</B>, if you please, kindly lay off the ad hominem attacks. If you want to question Ben Avuyah or the others for thier actions, please feel free to do so, but calling them (or myself) sick for disagreeing is simply wrong.<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119833580545743362005-06-26T20:53:00.000-04:002005-06-26T20:53:00.000-04:00http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests...<A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050625/ts_latimes/hittingthebigeleveno" REL="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050625/ts_latimes/hittingthebigeleveno</A>Reuven Chaim Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836805247888732019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119833378726801372005-06-26T20:49:00.001-04:002005-06-26T20:49:00.001-04:00The guy who used to sit next to me in elementary s...The guy who used to sit next to me in elementary school for davening used to sing "rubber duck ducky" under his breath during tachanun.M-nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14544559966559522003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119833362198597882005-06-26T20:49:00.000-04:002005-06-26T20:49:00.000-04:00You people are sick.You people are sick.Reuven Chaim Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836805247888732019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119825680492108332005-06-26T18:41:00.000-04:002005-06-26T18:41:00.000-04:00I don’t like saying the shema anymore because I do...I don’t like saying the shema anymore because I don’t like to threaten myself three times a day with destruction if I don’t follow god’s commandments. Every time I read it, god just comes off sounding like a bully. “And it will be if you follow my commandments etc.” and then, “Heshomru lochem”…watch <BR/>out, I can really mess you up if I want to. <BR/><BR/>What a jerk.<BR/><BR/> I just say water melon water melon many times over quickly, it is indistinguishable from the prototypical yeshivisha mumble that passes for prayer. <BR/><BR/>Then I pause in a moment of ecstatic kavanah and, "tizzzzzkiru" for full thirty seconds and then, just when it seems anyone with normal lung capacity would be about to fade into semiconscious oblivion, I hold it for a few more seconds with my eyes squeezed shut, as if I can bring the moshiach with pure unadulterated will power, and the force of my zzzzz. <BR/><BR/>Then I go to the shul library and read a book.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps everyone in your shul is as frum as I am…Ben Avuyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08814145983874592449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-1119822278993396382005-06-26T17:44:00.000-04:002005-06-26T17:44:00.000-04:00Wolf-You are best when you pick up so well on thi...Wolf-You are best when you pick up so well on this stuff.<BR/>You are so correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com