tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post2362899866808040669..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: Persecuted? They Don't Know The Meaning Of The Word.BrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-56834827137462250462012-08-02T01:42:36.426-04:002012-08-02T01:42:36.426-04:00Scratch the surface of an Israeli haredi and you&#...Scratch the surface of an Israeli haredi and you'll find an Israeli. It's a national sport here to portray our group, tribe, subsociety, what have you, as persecuted, oppressed, repressed, hounded, and all the rest. Extremists of all stripes occasionally whip out Holocaust imagery, too. Fortunately, most of us don't take it that far and give tne nutcases the wide detour that they deserve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-47882287085159574752012-01-19T14:47:42.556-05:002012-01-19T14:47:42.556-05:00I wrote a post about this:
http://aztecqueen2000.b...I wrote a post about this:<br />http://aztecqueen2000.blogspot.com/2012/01/frum-japs.htmlAztecQueen2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/09371826731550331938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-29470847805584776512012-01-09T18:53:57.403-05:002012-01-09T18:53:57.403-05:00It's times like this when you wonder if people...It's times like this when you wonder if people like Rabbi Kanefsky should be wasting their time abolishing shelo asani isha. Instituting a new bracha would be a much better use of their efforts. בא"י אמ"ה שלא עשני פרומאקItcheSruliknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-66429400819594541182012-01-09T02:58:16.993-05:002012-01-09T02:58:16.993-05:00Very hard to ask most of the people you mentioned ...Very hard to ask most of the people you mentioned in the main post, since they have been dead for hundreds of years! <br /><br />(I know, your point is that if they were alive today they'd agree with you... but picky picky picky!)Woodrow/Conservadoxhttp://conservadox.tripod.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-21268727522019799492012-01-05T10:25:38.453-05:002012-01-05T10:25:38.453-05:00Perhaps the greatet danger to orthodox Jews--&...Perhaps the greatet danger to orthodox Jews--& Judaism---is not directly from such extremist fringe types, but from the vast “center” that always fails to adequately, clearly & unequivocally condemn such behavior.<br /><br />For every extremist chareidi nut, there are a hundred yeshivish types who are too busy “defending” against goyim, gays, Reform Jews, feminists & others, to really work up much indignation about a few frum guys who “maybe went a little too far”.<br /><br />And for each of those yeshivish, parochial types, there are their often less-yeshivish parents, in-laws & siblings---so many of whom who claim to be of independent mind on many issues---but who generally let institutions like Lakewood, the Agudah, etc. set the agenda for everything, and they just fall into line.<br /><br />Among all these tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of reasonable yidden, you’re not likely to hear much concerted protest against the actions of ostensibly frum fanatics in Israel (or the US)jrsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-31560308592797475582012-01-05T07:44:54.876-05:002012-01-05T07:44:54.876-05:00Their whole ethos is based on maintaining their se...Their whole ethos is based on maintaining their self-image as "us against the *goyim*", only now that they don't have the handy Cossacks persecuting them any longer, they make us (non-Orthodox Jews) into the Cossacks. Twisted, I know. Indeed, they've turned persecution into a fetish.Yam Erezhttp://miriamerez.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-46699186747740089652012-01-04T14:03:04.722-05:002012-01-04T14:03:04.722-05:00If your world view centers on the need to isolate ...If your world view centers on the need to isolate yourself in a community of people wholly of your own religious practice, you tend to view constraints on your ability to coerce your neighbors as persecution. This is not only true among Chareidim in beit Shemesh. The "religious freedom" the pilgrims from England to Massachusetts were seeking was also mainly the ability to coerce their neighbors into following their religion. Which is why Roger Williams broke off and founded Rhode Island, and Penn founded Pennsylvania.Mike S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-53659606942305054212012-01-04T13:34:34.145-05:002012-01-04T13:34:34.145-05:00Well, along with secular studies, Jewish history i...Well, along with secular studies, Jewish history is just not taught- or rather, what's taught is woefully inaccurate if not outright revisionist. <br /><br />I teach English in a chasidic girls' school in Williamsburg. I am not allowed to talk about the Holocaust at all (so no Holocaust-themed literature) because it's dealt with by the limudei kodesh teachers as a hashkafic issue- they don't want any "How could G-d do such a thing" type questions. They also want to keep it a religious thing, not a historical one. It's hard to explain, but I could talk about it more if you're interested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-40875903170323730332012-01-04T13:31:13.207-05:002012-01-04T13:31:13.207-05:00Well said, it's sickening.Well said, it's sickening.PsychoToddlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00874353280798371891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-24250258996930953042012-01-04T13:14:07.375-05:002012-01-04T13:14:07.375-05:00Chareidim didn't just invoke Nazis, they invok...Chareidim didn't just invoke Nazis, they invoked blood libels — <a href="http://jewishworker.blogspot.com/2012/01/charedi-satirical-response-to-secular.html" rel="nofollow">on the cover of the newspaper!</a>SQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-86988433138973063322012-01-04T12:02:57.841-05:002012-01-04T12:02:57.841-05:00As the old saying goes, don't try to teach a p...As the old saying goes, don't try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://garnelironheart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com