tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post3020777344575117568..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: The Road To Hell...BrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-61029394995123403952007-11-27T17:14:00.000-05:002007-11-27T17:14:00.000-05:00the simple fact is that most Hareidim are short on...the simple fact is that most Hareidim are short on derech eretz....Perhaps because their derech eretz is literally in drerd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-60220326349022204332007-11-27T14:48:00.000-05:002007-11-27T14:48:00.000-05:00There's a thread on this right now on hashkafah.co...There's a thread on this right now on hashkafah.com<BR/><BR/>http://www.hashkafah.com/index.php?showtopic=43478&hl=Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-6474050896053431192007-11-27T14:12:00.000-05:002007-11-27T14:12:00.000-05:00I find it amusing that, while the soldier was just...I find it amusing that, while the soldier was just sitting next to the woman, the haredi thugs in question actually put their hands on the woman. I suppose you're patur for shomer negia purposes if the only reason you're touching a woman is to beat the snot out of her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-37597074606179032792007-11-24T17:18:00.000-05:002007-11-24T17:18:00.000-05:00Respect for women, elders, and marriage and family...Respect for women, elders, and marriage and family would dictate:<BR/><BR/>Married couples sit together with any and all children<BR/><BR/>Females and elderly sit at the front<BR/><BR/>Young men sit at the rear<BR/><BR/>Neither humility nor piety was shown by those men. Love of G-d was not on their mind, only their inane fear of G-d striking them down for not enforcing their view of how things should be. He's never worked that way.-suitepotato-https://www.blogger.com/profile/04567987879881511630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-39807568682061996372007-11-21T15:12:00.000-05:002007-11-21T15:12:00.000-05:00A few years ago my husband and daughters went to I...A few years ago my husband and daughters went to Israel for the first time. One of the trips that we took was to KeverRochel. On the way back my husband and I entered an empty bus and chose a third row, while my girls decided to sit further back. I was at the window sit. When bus started to fill up, one of the Heredim made a big stink over a woman sitting on the third row. Being tourists and in the hostile area, we did not want to cause any problems and moved up a few rows back.<BR/><BR/>All young men sat down in the first three rows of that bus, but old women, some looked to be in the 80s had to walk to the end of the bus. Where is the respect for your elders?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-84149444259997495332007-11-21T15:03:00.000-05:002007-11-21T15:03:00.000-05:00A few minutes google searching turned up Igrot Mos...A few minutes google searching turned up Igrot Moshe, Even Ha-Ezer 2: 14<BR/><BR/>If you'd care to post a complete translation, I'd be interested in seeing it.Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-85706972809157737802007-11-21T14:36:00.000-05:002007-11-21T14:36:00.000-05:00Larry,I was unaware of such a teshuva. Do you hap...Larry,<BR/><BR/>I was unaware of such a teshuva. Do you happen to know where it is?<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-316418214222086942007-11-21T14:28:00.000-05:002007-11-21T14:28:00.000-05:00If it were, there would be people seeking to have ...<I>If it were, there would be people seeking to have a p'sak passed that riding on the subway is forbidden. To my knowledge, no one has even attempted such a thing. Thousands of Orthodox Jews ride the subways every day without any question of whether or not it is considered "mingling."</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, I have read excerpts in translation from a teshuvah by Rav Moshe Feinstein in which he explicitly permits riding the subway, even though one might accidentally touch a woman due to crowded conditions. The question was raised, but thank Hashem it was raised decades ago and to Rav Moshe, rather than today to some Israeli Charedi Gadol who had never been on a subway in their lives.Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.com