tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post7836871308587001411..comments2023-10-30T08:40:59.016-04:00Comments on Wolfish Musings: What An Interesting Concept... An Open Minded SchoolBrooklynWolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-53984213934639622252010-01-17T21:13:46.193-05:002010-01-17T21:13:46.193-05:00"First time on the internet, JRS? ;-) "..."First time on the internet, JRS? ;-) "<br /><br />cute. but no, it just struck me anew in this case, where, in spite of it all, I thought, what could someone *possibly* find in this post to kvetch about? (other than the shocking notion of a broad-minded yeshiva)JRSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-31512980356679135022010-01-14T11:06:41.092-05:002010-01-14T11:06:41.092-05:00First time on the internet, JRS? ;-)First time on the internet, JRS? ;-)Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-12524213127695241252010-01-13T10:17:25.022-05:002010-01-13T10:17:25.022-05:00wow. tough crowd! Wolf made an innocuous, positive...wow. tough crowd! Wolf made an innocuous, positive-sounding statement about a school appearing to have an open-minded approach, as evidenced by the varied clothing of the students---and we all know how much importance is placed on that these days, right or wrong, so the apparent liberal attitude toward dress mode says a lot---and the crowd goes wild, faulting his post for failing to adequately stress religious diversity to the nth degree... to the suspicious fact that he didn't yet know the precise tuition amount!JRSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-44369608288426744002010-01-07T09:27:09.346-05:002010-01-07T09:27:09.346-05:00I'm glad you found a school you like. However...I'm glad you found a school you like. However, it's curious that you don't know what the tuition is. Isn't there a stated tuition and then a determination as to how much scholarship you might be eligible for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-55367013913701208622010-01-04T19:42:33.516-05:002010-01-04T19:42:33.516-05:00Why seek based on your "minimum standard"...Why seek based on your "minimum standard" rather than your maximum standard/potential?Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-62603012655769832512010-01-04T15:23:39.052-05:002010-01-04T15:23:39.052-05:00JA,
Fair enough. You're entitled to laugh.
...JA,<br /><br />Fair enough. You're entitled to laugh.<br /><br />Nonetheless, we want him to have an Orthodox education, so that's the minimum standard we're willing to consider. <br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-9918161981605532742010-01-04T15:21:48.669-05:002010-01-04T15:21:48.669-05:00LOL. I'm sorry I have to laugh at what you co...LOL. I'm sorry I have to laugh at what you consider "open-minded." Why not send your son to a non-denominational school that has Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and even some secular students? Some of them still exist.<br /><br />Or does your open-mindedness only apply to those on your right? :-)Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-85864149420590496512010-01-04T12:19:56.857-05:002010-01-04T12:19:56.857-05:00good luck. personally i'm a big believer that ...good luck. personally i'm a big believer that you get what you pay for in life, including education.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-2948305214792995442010-01-04T11:22:28.317-05:002010-01-04T11:22:28.317-05:00Jonathan & Ariella,
Email me.
LOZ,
Sadly, i...Jonathan & Ariella,<br /><br />Email me.<br /><br />LOZ,<br /><br />Sadly, it's not in Brooklyn. Tuition is high, but I don't know what the "final number" will be yet until we go through the process.<br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-75228010779326883892010-01-04T10:38:21.632-05:002010-01-04T10:38:21.632-05:00if it's in brooklyn, i'm also curious whic...if it's in brooklyn, i'm also curious which school. i'll be looking for one in 7 years. (if they'll take my ilk.)<br /><br />also, what's the tuition like?Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-14212991599002951602010-01-04T05:07:30.068-05:002010-01-04T05:07:30.068-05:00Is there a reason you won't tell us which scho...Is there a reason you won't tell us which school it is?Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-8195850502962197332010-01-04T00:19:28.876-05:002010-01-04T00:19:28.876-05:00i worked in satmar's boro park elementary scho...i worked in satmar's boro park elementary school in college (worst experience of my life). student body was definately not all satmar. of course no srugies, but different hasidic groups.<br /><br />interesting that you hone in on students' dress as a measure of the school's openess. i think it's important, but i'd be even more interested in diversity among the teachers/administrators (e.g., are they all RW kollelniks) and diverstity among post HS choices (does the school push yeshiva in israel cum yu/touro). i look at my son's elementary school. while the students are diverse, the teachers are RW.<br /><br />"the school makes it plain that it is affiliated with the Orthodox movement, I don't have a problem with them restricting acceptance to those of that affiliation."<br /><br />it's easier to keep non-orthos on the margins of the jewish world and to continue looking down on them than to accept them and be mekarev them to yiddishkeit. (i'm *not* saying this is your attitude, but i find this to be a very common "not in my backyard" attitude among orthos)<br /><br />best of luck with wherever george goes.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-38921834766842516102010-01-04T00:17:38.012-05:002010-01-04T00:17:38.012-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-19531273254545702672010-01-03T17:25:56.733-05:002010-01-03T17:25:56.733-05:00Hatzlacha with the school. I think I know which ...Hatzlacha with the school. I think I know which one it is, but as you did not name it, I won't hazard to guess it here.Ariella's bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409352047101582583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-49152176873200979792010-01-03T14:36:32.965-05:002010-01-03T14:36:32.965-05:00Aaron,
Do I have a problem with them restricting ...Aaron,<br /><br />Do I have a problem with them restricting admission based on those terms? No, I don't have a problem. But I won't send my kid there, becuase I don't want a "mold" kid -- but for those who do, fine.<br /><br />And I thank you for setting the record straight on Satmar. I was not aware of that.<br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-17099828491221340472010-01-03T13:44:24.490-05:002010-01-03T13:44:24.490-05:00>>"Nonetheless, if a school bills itsel...>>"Nonetheless, if a school bills itself as an Orthodox school, then I don't see why it's hypocritical to reject non-Orthodox."<br /><br />>>"If the school billed itself as openly accepting all Jews and then only accepted Orthodox, I could see your point. But the school makes it plain that it is affiliated with the Orthodox movement, I don't have a problem with them restricting acceptance to those of that affiliation."<br /><br />And if a school bills itself as a black hat/white shirt school, then you do have a problem with them restricting acceptance to those of that affiliation?<br /><br />P.S. Satmar accepts non-Satmar - including non-Chasidic - children. Often, tuition-free.Aaron S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-52385934778831812832010-01-03T13:35:11.855-05:002010-01-03T13:35:11.855-05:00Aaron,
I know next to nothing ab out Avi Weiss an...Aaron,<br /><br />I know next to nothing ab out Avi Weiss and Open Orthodoxy, so I can't really comment on that one way or the other.<br /><br />Nonetheless, if a school bills itself as an Orthodox school, then I don't see why it's hypocritical to reject non-Orthodox. It's no different than a Satmar school opening for Satmar kids only.<br /><br />If the school billed itself as openly accepting all Jews and then only accepted Orthodox, I could see your point. But the school makes it plain that it is affiliated with the Orthodox movement, I don't have a problem with them restricting acceptance to those of that affiliation. <br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-72715668052604964822010-01-03T13:27:05.294-05:002010-01-03T13:27:05.294-05:00Avi also calls his denomination *Orthodox*.
Besid...Avi also calls his denomination *Orthodox*.<br /><br />Besides, you are aren't a close-minded right-winger hypocritically opposed to the Reform and Conservative derachim, while demanding "tolerance" for all forms of derachim that claim the Orthodox banner.<br /><br />Right?Aaron S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-12975701375718195992010-01-03T12:51:50.967-05:002010-01-03T12:51:50.967-05:00Aaron,
It is an *Orthodox* school. Likewise, it&...Aaron,<br /><br />It is an *Orthodox* school. Likewise, it's a boys school, and as such they aren't so "open minded" to allow girls.<br /><br />The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-68030288099184355382010-01-03T11:48:26.811-05:002010-01-03T11:48:26.811-05:00An Open Minded School? Sounds like Open Orthodoxy....An Open Minded School? Sounds like Open Orthodoxy. Is Avi Weiss involved?<br /><br />I trust one of the wide variety of derachim they are open minded about is the Reform and Conservative derech.Aaron S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-37956697363806469072010-01-03T10:17:53.075-05:002010-01-03T10:17:53.075-05:00Sounds like a school where achdus may actually be ...Sounds like a school where achdus may actually be a governing principle. Unusual to say the least.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-86721162620554915622010-01-03T03:32:16.788-05:002010-01-03T03:32:16.788-05:00I'm glad you found such a place. It reminds me...I'm glad you found such a place. It reminds me of being at the kotel years ago and seeing some men in hats and jackets, others with plain clothes and knitted yarmulkes, and yet others in army fatigues - all davening to Hashem. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more beautiful sight.Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493556247769393437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-53020402393586800732010-01-03T00:22:14.572-05:002010-01-03T00:22:14.572-05:00Sounds like a school I'd like too. No such opt...Sounds like a school I'd like too. No such option here in Sydney, unfortunately....Devorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11425059.post-52985606566803037922010-01-02T22:42:20.484-05:002010-01-02T22:42:20.484-05:00A school that doesn't require hats and jackets...A school that doesn't require hats and jackets? Es pas nisht. <br />But seriously, it's impressive that high schoolers who aren't required wear them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com