Wednesday, June 13, 2007

What's Missing In This Description?

From an article about the upcoming Kovna-Brezna Chasunah in this week's Jewish Press:

Moshe Yaakov Greenbaum will marry Gittel Reizel Neuschloss, daughter of Rabbi Sholom Neuschloss, Brezna Rav, at Ateres Chaya Hall in Boro Bark on Thursday, June 21. The chassan is the son of Rabbi Menachem Zvi Greenbaum, Rav of Beis Medrash Hagadol of the Lower East Side; son of Rabbi Shemaya Greenbaum, author of Siyata D’Shmaya. The aufruf will take place Shabbos Parshas Korach, June 16, at Beis Medrash Emunas Yisroel at 4315-16th Avenue.

The chassan is the grandson of Rabbi Ephraim Oshry, zt”l (1914-2003) Kovna Rav, author of Mima’akim, Churban Lita, and The Annihilation of Lithuanian Jewry. Rabbi Oshry, upon his arrival in United States in 1952, after surviving the Holocaust, was appointed as Rav of Beis Medrash Hagadol of the Lower East Side, where he served with distinction for more than 50 years. Beth Medrash Hagadol is the historical pulpit occupied by Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, zt”l (1840-1902) renowned first and only chief rabbi of New York City (1888-1902).

The kallah is the granddaughter of Rabbi Gavriel Yehuda Neuschloss of Williamsburg, and of Rabbi Meir Horowitz, zt”l (1927-2004) Shotzer Rebbe in Boro Park; son of Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Horowitz, zt”l (1898-1967) Shotzer Rebbe who arrived in the United States in 1928. Rabbi Yisroel Dovid was the son-in-law and successor to Rabbi Meir Moskowitz, zt”l (1853-1921) Shotzer Rebbe. Rabbi Gavriel Yehuda Neuschloss is the younger brother of Rabbi Moshe Neuschloss, zt”l (1911-1997) who served as Serdehaly Rav in Williamsburg and was appointed Skverer Rav with the establishment of the Skverer Community in Spring Valley in 1957.

First person to come up with it gets 20 Wolf points...

The Wolf

20 comments:

queeniesmom said...

Great geneology of both families, but nothing about the 2 who are marrying! Occupation? Suppose it isn't important as the families will support them.

Shoshana said...

How about a single word of who the mother or father of the chosson or kallah are?

Shoshana said...

Oops, sorry, I just meant mother, or grandmother, or any other female to be mentioned at all besides the kallah herself.

BrooklynWolf said...

You got it Queeniesmom. Twenty Wolf points to you. Not a word of who the two are, aside from their names. No mention of where he learns, what areas of study he excelled in, what he likes to do, what acts of chesed he or she might have done, no mention of her school, etc.

Shoshana... I didn't even think of your answer, but I like it too. Fifteen Wolf points to you as well.

It's kind of sad that it's not two people that are marrying, but rather two dynasties.

The Wolf

Mis-nagid said...

"Not a word of who the two are, aside from their names."

Note also that it doesn't say how old they are! Goes to your point about this not being about them.

Ezzie said...

Aw, I was going to go with QM's answer.

I always yell at my cousin when his kids get engaged and he starts telling me about the parents. I ask him "What about your future SON/DAUGHTER-IN-LAW?!" (In truth, though, they're actually quite amazing on their own, and he's finally started talking about them instead.)

Ezzie said...

M-N - I dunno if their ages really matter.

Mis-nagid said...

Ezzie, when you think of things that typically go into a wedding announcement, profession (already raised above) is one and age is another. Age may not "really matter" but its absence is another bit of evidence that this is more of a merger announcement than a wedding announcement.

DAG said...

I also like how it mentions the history of a pulpit..from before the time the man who would become it's Rav was born

Anonymous said...

Got here late for the points. Would have said that there's nothing about where they blog.

Ichabod Chrain

Anonymous said...

Oops, it should have been "too late for the points"

IC

Eees said...

Hubby,
The sad thing isn't that two dynasties are marrying, but that that seems to be the only thing that matters here.

Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...

hey at least they have the kalla's name... i've seen wedding announcements in a hhareidi newspaper/magazine that said (translated) "mazal tov on the marriage of reb So-And-So to the daughter of reb Such-And-Such" :-P

G said...

I was gonna go with the seemingly asexual reproduction angle.

TheAnswer said...

Duh. This is a chassidic shidduch, which is done by parents. How often do you think the kids even met? Once, twice?
The question is whether they will live fulfilled lives and raise good kids with such a system. Seems to be working ok for them. No?

Michael Koplow said...

Ichabod Chrain: Major plotzage on your pseudonym. Yasher koach.

BrooklynWolf said...

Answer,

The number of times that they met is really irrelevant. The point here is, as others have mentioned it, that instead of a wedding announcement, it sounds more like a corporate merger. The important thing in a wedding is the couple itself, not who their grandparents and great-grandparents were.

The Wolf

Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...

Actually, two of my friends announced their engagement by sending out a hilarious email describing it in the manner of a corporate merger. It was great. Very geeky.

aaron from L.A. said...

yichus is like lots of zeros.If you put something in front of it,you get a big number.If not,you're left with nothing.

BrooklynWolf said...

Aaron,

I had a rebbe here in Brooklyn who made that exact same point. :)

The Wolf